> What are the odds there will be no peace in Eastern Ukraine until there is a change in Kremlin?

What are the odds there will be no peace in Eastern Ukraine until there is a change in Kremlin?

Posted at: 2015-06-30 
r even after because these terrorists aren't welcomed anywhere so they will stay and menace,

It became obvious during Maydan that Ukraine was on the way to hell. We had been waiting a miracle so much, but after 2014/02/19 everything went wrong, as USA and EU wanted. So, do not try to make Russia responsable for all those terrible disasters which have been taking place in poor Ukraine after Maydan till now.

PS Познавательный разбор текущей ситуации, рекомендую

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59f9ZFhU3...

Катя, зачем вы спрашиваете вопросы, если считаете, что знаете ответы на них? И, так, для сведения, новости по телевизору в России смотрят только пенсионеры. Вы лучше скажите нам, как в конечном итоге освобожденное от российских захватчиков местное население Донецкой и Луганской областей будет сосуществовать с соотечественниками из других регионов. Как можно забыть, что твою семью убили твои соседи? Чеченцам в России много денег дали. Украина тоже по этому пути пойдет? Или есть какие-то другие хитрости? Или вы думаете они там ждут днями и ночами благодетелей из Киева?

As for mercenaries from Russia and other countries around the world, they will go to another war in other region of Earth. Till the moment they will be killed.

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But we are not pensioners here. Any mail sevice (like yandex, mail, rambler) gives links to unpleasant to Kiselev's ear news. Unfortunately, even if you read information on the Ukraine events all day long and do it every single day during past year, you will not know what exactly is happening there. Every single direct or indirect participant of the events or supporter of any of sides was accused in lie and that lie was proved, and there is no reasons to expect that in the future they will tell the truth. In this situation claims that it is Kremlin or any other country/group of people is the source of the war can be just as untruthful as other false information.

As result, the future can be completely different from our beliefs. Most of people choose to see only one side and ignore data from the other side. We can believe that Putin is the main evil here, but just with the same possibility, if he disappears, new even more bloody war can emerge. Sounds crazy, but why not? Why not to exterminate all Eastern Ukrainians, Russians in Baltic states, Armenians etc... Or why not to exterminate Western Ukrainians, Baltic people, people of Caucasus etc... Chances are as high as eternal friendship in Europe after Putin/Lukashenko/etc... Civilized behavior usually ends at the point when people stop to see other people as equals/humans/etc... It is very easy to make people to believe in any of these ideas. Including people of EU or any other rich country. And in general, may be meteor will fall on Earth any moment, or something else huge and bad happens.

There was 3d ceasefire agreement. I sure, it isn't last. Because it's just excuse for gain new cannon fodder and pump more money from Europe and the US. Тебе ли не знать: когда родился хохол, еврей повесился...

And even the Kremlin will change their way, it'll affect to the situation. Donbass already got enough weapon and ammo for return to their boundaries. And no order from Kremlin will not prevent us to go there. Тебе ли не знать как это делается.

Не мути воду во пруду, глядишь - еще испить придётся.

The odds that the Ukrainian unicorn cavalry will take over the world are higher.

How do you think, for the locals in the shelled Donbass cities who are the terrorists?

This war will not end until Putin wants it to end. He has managed to convince majority of Russians that there are no Russian military units in Ukraine even after all the "Gruz-200" going back across the border into Rostov region, where many Russian troops go for "exercises".

Defensive weapons to Ukraine will slow down Putin's ambitions, but they will not stop him. Javelins are great, but new Russian military offensive equipment is not that bad either.

His short term goal is to establish a puppet state in the Donbass region. His long term goal is to overthrow the Ukrainian government and install another puppet leader. They succeeded with in in Georgia. They want to use the same formula in Ukraine. Without a united Western support for Ukraine, it is doomed.

As far as Russia goes, its not going to change any time soon. Any change has to come from the people, but Russian media has managed to convince most Russians that the West is the cause of all trouble in Ukraine by supporting a Fascist coup in Ukraine to install a Fascist leader who is intent on the genocide of all Russians in Ukraine. And of course there are no Russian soldiers or equipment in Ukraine, because all of it is either stolen or bought from corrupt Ukrainian military. Media plays the patriotic and nationalistic tune and its working well.

edit.Специально для уважаемых патриотов. Прошу мне в комменты не писать, потому что я на них отвечать не буду. Я сам русский, и никакой Факс Ньюс не смотрю. Я не вижу смысла отвечать на комменты. Все это я уже слышал и знаю наизусть, так как сам регулярно смотрю Российскую прессу. Западную я смотрю намного реже. ))))Я ответил на вопрос, но не буду отвечать на комменты. С уважением, до свидания.))))))))))